Monday, 28 October 2024

Comparing the podcasts produced by NotebookLM and Lettercast.ai using the same single sources (pdf or text)

Sources

NotebookLM

Lettercast.ai

NotebookLM greater by

Iconic British Designs: The London Tube Map and the London Eye

218 seconds

153 seconds

42%

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/7e91a45e-e544-4447-98b3-e19889f99463

https://app.lettercast.ai/casts/0f2bd232-b44a-4983-af32-f6f4e559c66d.mp3

 

647 words

375 words

72%

178 wpm

147 wpm

21%

GSE level: 62 - 66

GSE level: 58 - 62

7%

CEFR level: B2

CEFR level: B2

=

Social rules in my country

314 seconds

129 seconds

143%

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/d6ec3dd2-cb55-4087-b228-20e0b6de8525

https://app.lettercast.ai/casts/b5fae50f-80f1-4376-97ea-bb515483db56.mp3

 

947 words

310 words

205%

180 wpm

144 wpm

25%

GSE level: 64 - 68

GSE level: 55 - 59

16%

CEFR level: B2

CEFR level: B1+

+

Eat and drink – at the right time!

252 seconds

172 seconds

47%

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/af091734-070b-464c-b5b5-64617d0a355c

https://app.lettercast.ai/casts/450f171b-b2fe-4d85-8c6c-e1e4fa3e57f4.mp3

 

797 words

405 words

 

190 wpm

141 wpm

97%

GSE level: 62 - 66

GSE level: 62 - 66

35%

CEFR level: B2

CEFR level: B2

=

Spanish honeymoon couple on the Titanic

267 seconds

126 seconds

112%

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/39bc7cb2-54e4-407e-a6cd-24c031f7350c

https://app.lettercast.ai/casts/7f3bf733-92c1-46d3-9773-c9276b5940c1.mp3

 

823 words

309 words

166%

185 wpm

147 wpm

26%

GSE level: 57 - 61

GSE level: 62 - 66

-8%

CEFR level: B2

CEFR level: B2

=

Averages

263 seconds

145 seconds

81%

804 words

350 words

130%

183 words per minute

145 words per minute

26%

GSE level 63

GSE level 61

3%

CEFR level B2

CEFR level B2

=

 

There are some major differences between these two ways of generating podcasts. NotebookLM is much faster and the interface is much more sophisticated and it’s much easier to share the recordings. What’s more Lettercast only accepts PDF files as sources. NotebookLM even lets you upload audio files now!

The podcasts produced by NotebookLM are 81% longer on average and 26% faster, which means that the number of words is more than double (130% more). The levels on the GSE and CEFR scales are very similar (B2) and suitable for students at B1 and up, but not lower.

The major problem  with the NotebookLM podcasts is that they are very fast: 183 words per minute. NotebookLM allows you to play them at 80% which means the speed would be about 146 wpm, much the same as Lettercast. Sadly, Lettercast only allows you to play the podcast faster!

My suggestion is to use Turboscribe.ai to get a transcript of the podcasts which can then be listened to with the script highlighted section by section, although you have to move the page up all the time.

From NotebookLM you can download the .wav file and then upload it to Turboscribe, specify that there are two speakers and click on TRANSCRIBE. You can change the speed to 75%, which will reduce the speed to about 137 words per minute.

From Lettercast.ai It is more complicated. You need to click on View all and then on the orange RSS feed icon, find the link to the audio file which is an .mp3 file select it and select Copy and paste the link into Turboscribe, specify that there are two speakers and click on TRANSCRIBE. 

A further problem with Lettercast.ai is that now I have made 5 podcasts, I don’t seem to be able to make any more on my free account although it specifies 20 free podcasts per month.

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